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1  Kaya Ö character?c=The Big Ape 37174
Saturday, May 28, 2011, 09:56:42 AM solved by SPe (full view, add comment) maintained by HF
In addition to ZS, he also appears visually in the illustrations of a few text stories in U MMW, which are now indexed
― spe Saturday, May 28, 2011, 10:10:35 AM
So we need a description for this character too.
― Kaya Ö Saturday, May 28, 2011, 10:56:59 AM
"father of The Little Ape"
2  Kaya Ö story?c=UC MMW  47 37173
Saturday, May 28, 2011, 09:50:19 AM solved by KOz (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,DGe
Does anyone know the name of the rooster at the top left so that we can xapp the cover?
― iwerksfan Sunday, May 29, 2011, 04:50:34 AM
The rooster is Buster, the so-called Cock o' the Walk from the same-named cartoon, QMS 1935-017.

His name of Buster isn't given in the cartoon, but it comes from some advertising material put out when the cartoon was new.
― Kaya Ö Sunday, May 29, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
thnx
3  Kaya Ö character?c=The Little Ape 37148
Thursday, May 26, 2011, 06:20:12 PM solved by SPe (full view, add comment) maintained by HF
"This character is not part of the Inducks official list of characters, in the sense that he did not visually appear in at least two stories (that do not refer to one another)." is not true as this character appeared visually in ZS 35-10-27 as well as in several U MMW strips, some of which are now indexed.
― spe Friday, May 27, 2011, 01:07:55 PM
Could you write a description for the character?
― Kaya Ö Saturday, May 28, 2011, 09:52:00 AM
"baby ape attached to Elmer"
Sunday, May 1, 2011, 06:23:18 PM solved by HF (full view, add comment) maintained by HF
Can you add "Bluebird" and "Owl (friend of Danny)" to the list? They appear regularly in a Danny strip series from U MMW in 1949.
― spe Sunday, May 1, 2011, 07:01:32 PM
Can you write descriptions for both characters?

Which universe do they belong to?
― Kaya Ö Sunday, May 1, 2011, 07:31:25 PM
universe: misc
Bluebird: Danny the lamb's small bird friend who observes the situations
Owl (friend of Danny): Danny the lamb's owl friend who tries to correct Danny's bad manners
― HF Monday, May 2, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
They might be in [universe:UK] instead of misc.
― spe Monday, May 2, 2011, 10:26:31 AM
Which Danny is this? The legend file has several of them:

Danny the black lamb^Danny the black lamb^Y^N^N^^^^^^
O'Doom^O'Doom^Y^N^N^[a gnome from S-coded stories with a golden pot. His name in early stories is Danny O'Doom, later Nick O'Doom]^^^^^
Danny^Danny^N^N^N^^^^^^
Danny from Peter Pan^Danny from Peter Pan^N^N^N^^^^^^
Danny^Danny^Y^Y^N^^^^^^
Danny Duck^Danny Duck^Y^Y^N^^^^^^

None of them has [universe:UK], but the first one has [universe:misc]. Is that the correct one? Should the universe for that character be changed?
― Kaya Ö Monday, May 2, 2011, 10:47:47 AM
Danny the black lamb is the Danny in question. Danny the black lamb's universe shouldnot be changed from misc to UK as he also appears in W text stories. "Bluebird" and "Owl (friend of Danny)" can either be attributed to the universe of misc based on Danny's univ. or to UK as they appear only in UK Danny strips.
― LPJ Monday, May 2, 2011, 02:11:16 PM
...Or perhaps we should give Danny the black lamb his own universe?
― spe Monday, May 2, 2011, 07:48:07 PM
I will happily leave this universe decision to someone else. :-)
― Kaya Ö Tuesday, May 3, 2011, 08:17:30 AM
re universe: I am fine fine with any universe attribution to Bluebird and Owl; it ma be misc or UK (at second thought, UK might indeed be more compatible with inducks conventions).
― HF status changed to solved Thursday, Jun 30, 2016, 09:58:50 PM
These can be used now:

Danny the black lamb [universe:UK]

Danny's Bluebird friend [Danny the lamb's small bird friend who observes the situations] [universe:UK]

Danny's Owl friend [Danny the lamb's owl friend who tries to correct Danny's bad manners] [universe:UK]
5  Pikkolo story?c=GC MM2009-45 34415
Sunday, Jan 16, 2011, 07:01:47 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
the turkish isn't that!
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Sunday, Jan 23, 2011, 03:05:45 PM
6  pavlos xref?c=W MM   40-00 32740
Saturday, Nov 6, 2010, 05:14:27 PM unsolved (full view, add comment) maintained by FSp,KOz
in W MM 40-00 we see that the dram is smaller in the italian,the turkish and the german cover. they look like remakes, therefore they should get another code, from the italian cover.
― fraply Sunday, Nov 7, 2010, 02:26:57 AM
I do not believe that the German cover differs from the American one. On the contrary, however, the Italian and Turkish cover differ from the American in the followings: a) Mickey does not have tail, b) the rope from wich the sausage is hanged has smaller curve, g) the sausage is more near to the nose of Pluto d) the right leg of Mickey almost touches upon the back leg of Pluto e) the pompon in the right shoulder of Mickey is less thick f) Mickey has bigger right eyebrow and smaller eyes g)the bass drum is smaller
― fraply Sunday, Nov 7, 2010, 03:03:16 AM
Je ne crois pas que la couverture Allemande est differente de l' Américaine. Au contraire, cependant, la couverture Italienne et Turque diffèrent de l'Américaine dans les point suivant: a) Mickey n' a pas de queue, b) la corde de laquelle la saucisse est accrochée a une plus petite courbe, g) la saucisse est plus près du nez de Pluto d) la jambe droite de Mickey touche presque la jambe arrière de Pluto e) le pompon dans l'épaule droite de Mickey est moins épais f) Mickey a plus grand sourcil droit et plus petits yeux g) le tambour basse est plus petit
― fraply Sunday, Nov 7, 2010, 03:10:53 AM
Το Γερμανικό εξώφυλλο δεν νομίζω ότι διαφέρει απο το Αμερικάνικο.
Αντιθέτως ,όμως,το Ιταλικό και το Τούρκικο διαφέρουν απο το Αμερικάνικο στα εξης :
α)ο Μίκυ δεν έχει ουρά, β)το σκοινί απο το οποίο κρέμεται το λουκάνικο έχει μικρότερη καμπύλη,
γ)το λουκάνικο είναι πιο κοντά στη μύτη του Πλούτο δ)το δεξί πόδι του Μίκυ σχεδόν αγγίζει το πίσω πόδι του Πλούτο ε)η φούντα στον δεξί ώμο του Μίκυ είναι λιγώτερο φουντωτή στ)ο Μίκυ έχει μεγαλύτερο δεξί φρύδι και μικρότερα μάτια ζ)το τύμπανο μπάσο είναι μικρότερο
― fraply Sunday, Nov 7, 2010, 03:22:33 AM
Non credo che la copertura Tedesca sia diversa da l' Americana. Al contrario, tuttavia, la copertura Italiana e Turca differisce da l' Americana nel punto seguente: a) Mickey n' a non code, b) la fune della quale la salsiccia è appesa ha una più piccola curva, g) la salsiccia è più vicino al naso di Pluto d) la gamba diritta di Mickey tocca quasi la gamba posteriore di Pluto e) il pompon in la spalla diritta di Mickey è meno spessa f) Mickey ha più grande sopracciglio diritta e più piccoli occhi g) il tamburo bassa è più piccolo
― spe Wednesday, Nov 10, 2010, 10:08:43 PM
The Turkish and Italian covers are obviously changed. In addition to the differences pointed out by Fraply, also note that PL's mouth and ears look redrawn. Not sure if they deserve a separate code, though.

The German cover looks a bit smaller, but it seems that it is the whole cover which has been made smaller and not just a part of it. This happens all of the time and is usually not mentioned in Inducks. See for example recent DC JB covers: the Polish prints generally show insignificantly more of the background than the Scandinavian prints, with the consequence that everything is slightly smaller.
― Kaya Ö Monday, Apr 18, 2011, 09:37:25 AM
The Turkish part is solved, I've added [changes:traced with minor variations] to the Turkish item
7  Mankkop story?c=U MMW  98D 26605
Friday, Apr 23, 2010, 06:00:00 PM solved by KOz (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,KOz
The not-Disney serial "Skit, Skat and the Captain" was drawn by Basil Reynolds.
I compare the art of this page with "Skit and Skat", and the art seems really the same. Besided, in his blog Kaya Ozkaracalar says that the comics with Elmer's world in MMW were drawn by Basil Reynolds.
So you can put Basil Reynolds as artist of this story, as for Shuffled Symphonies.
Thanks.

P.S. Please delete "Big Ape" and put "The Little Ape".
― Mankkop Friday, Apr 23, 2010, 06:28:46 PM

P.S. Please delete "Big Ape" and put "The Little Ape" as app.
― FAa Sunday, Jun 27, 2010, 01:30:21 AM
The ape part is solved
― Kaya Ö Monday, Apr 18, 2011, 09:29:15 AM
yes, art is indeed by Basil Reynolds, I've added the art credit for him.
ok
8  Mr. Zuppik story?c=U MMW 530 25539
Saturday, Apr 3, 2010, 10:19:45 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa
App : Cinderella,Gus e Jaq ...
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Sunday, Apr 11, 2010, 09:03:46 PM
9  Mr. Zuppik issue?c=uk/MMW  86 24594
Sunday, Mar 14, 2010, 02:59:28 PM solved by FAa (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,KOz
Delete please C because is the same of D
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Mar 14, 2010, 05:01:08 PM
Regarding mmw 86: C and D are not same. C is a text titled Goofy Gossip. D is an untitled comics with Goofy. They are completely unrelated to each other.
Regarding mmw 87: actually, this index needs to be corrected. The title of C should not be Goofy Gossip, it is actually untitled and it is 1/4 pages and should, in my opinon, better be labeled as an "irregular format comics", rather than an "illustration". and another item should be added: a 1/8 pages text with title Goofy Gossip.
― FAa status changed to solved Friday, Mar 19, 2010, 02:53:20 AM
Nothing done with uk/MMW 86

New item added to uk/MMW 87. I added the Goofy Gossip text right before the untitled Goofy story. Please tell if this is the wrong order.

I just called them ca and cb instead of changing all the sequence letters. Then we don't have to do anything with all the scans. (someone will probably want to add a lot of Q items later anyway)
― Mr. Zuppik Sunday, Mar 14, 2010, 04:42:11 PM
10  Mr. Zuppik story?c=U MMW  85D 23142
Wednesday, Feb 17, 2010, 07:44:20 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,KOz
page : 1
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Monday, Feb 22, 2010, 07:23:26 PM
[brokpg:3/4]
11  Mr. Zuppik issue?c=uk/MMW  86 23091
Tuesday, Feb 16, 2010, 06:44:48 PM not solvable (Kaya Ö) (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,KOz
J : code U MMW 86H
― Kaya Ö status changed to not solvable Monday, Feb 22, 2010, 07:27:03 PM
It's not Disney
12  Mr. Zuppik story?c=Xtr/A 111B 22537
Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 10:15:23 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by HF
Title : Çıngıraklı Yılan ---> Çıngıraklı Yılan !.
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 10:54:59 PM
― Mr. Zuppik Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 10:15:46 PM
Send please to KOz
13  Mr. Zuppik issue?c=tr/DA 1998-05 22535
Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 08:07:34 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 08:09:33 PM
14  Mr. Zuppik issue?c=tr/A 111 22469
Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 02:11:06 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
App : Popeye
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 06:19:53 PM
― Mr. Zuppik Saturday, Feb 6, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
This is the link of Popeye (disney) http://coa.inducks.or...p?c=Popeye
15  Mr. Zuppik story?c=U MMW 181 22081
Saturday, Jan 30, 2010, 08:34:40 PM solved by Cacou (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa
Delete please this link because exist : this is the correct link http://coa.inducks.or...=U+MMW+183
― Kaya Ö Saturday, Jan 30, 2010, 10:29:15 PM
yes, Barone Bombastium is right on this one. The Trip to the Moon continuity indeed starts at MMW no. 183
― Cacou status changed to solved Sunday, Jan 31, 2010, 09:38:32 AM
― Cacou Sunday, Jan 31, 2010, 09:56:04 AM
As you've been told, changes are not instantaneous on this website.

Check the site home page:

Latest update: January 31, 2010, 09:26

So the changes are done, but not yet visible. And it is the same for most other changes on COAzilla.
― Mr. Zuppik Saturday, Jan 30, 2010, 08:35:01 PM
FAA is most important !;)
― Mr. Zuppik Sunday, Jan 31, 2010, 09:42:58 AM
Cacou il link c'è ancora ! L' hai cancellato e apparirà subito uno solo e non due ???

Ah per favore aggiungi in quello corretto questi due APP : Mac The Sailor e DD
16  Mr. Zuppik issue?c=uk/MMW 401 22077
Saturday, Jan 30, 2010, 07:21:24 PM not understood (Kaya Ö) (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,KOz
A= Wrong scan
― Kaya Ö status changed to not understood Saturday, Jan 30, 2010, 10:16:25 PM
what's wrong about it?
― Cacou Sunday, Jan 31, 2010, 09:52:26 AM
It's better than nothing. If you or someone else got a full scan, you/he can send it to us and we'll include it.
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Jan 31, 2010, 11:27:35 AM
Cover illustrations do not always have to be 1 full page as in standart comics magazine format. Sometimes, they can be more than 1 full page (as in several indexed Italian comics which have cover illustrations which are 2 pages) or sometimes they can be less than 1 full page (as in this British item: 1/4 page [the remaining 3/4 is a ZM item in irregular format, as stated in b level).
Further explanatory note: Of course, I could have indexed this as something like:
a: cover
aa: illustration included in a
ab: zm included in a
the reason I did not prefer to do that is that the illustration and the zm are unrelated to each other. I mean, if in any other page, there are more than one items, we do not index the page as one level and items in that page as included in that level, right? unless they are related to each other in some essential way..
― Mr. Zuppik Sunday, Jan 31, 2010, 09:43:53 AM
Perchè non si vede il WEEkly per intero! è difficile poi riconoscerlo!
17  Mr. Zuppik issue?c=tr/A  21 21654
Sunday, Jan 24, 2010, 04:47:10 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
Xapp : MI

Does this comic have got a issue ?
― LPJ Monday, Jan 25, 2010, 02:49:50 PM
The item seems to be http://coa.inducks.or...Q+35-02-03 .
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Tuesday, Jan 26, 2010, 11:52:59 PM
thnx to both of you
18  Mankkop story?c=YM 132 21300
Wednesday, Jan 13, 2010, 05:09:14 PM solved by KOz (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz,FAa
Questa storia ha un remake in Inghilterra:

http://img3.imageshac...jan57l.jpg
― Mankkop Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010, 09:54:06 PM
Solved ok

(The issue was indexed)
― Kaya Ö Monday, Apr 18, 2011, 09:47:05 AM
Since Mankkop himself says this is solved, I Set to Solved directly
19  Mankkop issue?c=it/TG  146 21245
Monday, Jan 11, 2010, 05:08:18 PM solved by LPJ (full view, add comment) maintained by FSp,ABo
Questa tavola (http://coa.inducks.or...+MMA++5B68) è presente su TG 146 (e non "Un cappello ritrovato"), e penso proprio che sia questa qui: http://coa.inducks.or...+MMA++5B68
― Mankkop Monday, Jan 11, 2010, 05:09:55 PM
Scusate, dicevo: la tavola che ho trovato su TG 146 è questa: http://img37.imagesha...teller.png, e non "Un cappello ritrovato".
― Mankkop Monday, Jan 11, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
Se mi spiegate bene la trama della storiella di Eugenio Bellidee, potrò appurare se coincide o no con la mia versione: potrebbe essere un errore della mia edizione.
― Kaya Ö Monday, Jan 11, 2010, 08:42:12 PM
If the scan is correct, it is U MMA 5B68.
If the description, title and heroes is correct, it is U MMA 5B74
― Mankkop Thursday, May 20, 2010, 09:23:18 PM
Solved ok
― LPJ status changed to solved Monday, Aug 21, 2017, 10:14:21 AM
― Mr. Zuppik Monday, Jan 11, 2010, 06:26:34 PM
Forse devi chiedere a ABo per la tavola
― Mr. Zuppik Thursday, Jan 14, 2010, 08:26:13 PM
solved
20  ggg issue?c=tr/TM   2 21196
Sunday, Jan 10, 2010, 02:22:51 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
Cover is W OS 427-00
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Monday, Jan 11, 2010, 07:58:08 PM
thnx
21  spe story?c=W WDC 101-00 20899
Saturday, Jan 2, 2010, 07:34:32 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
[changes:GO mirrored, HDL replaced with HDL from W WDC 121-00]

GO mirrored? I can't find GO on this cover!
― deyanmegara Saturday, Jan 2, 2010, 07:58:32 PM
The indexer probably meant DD, but got mixed up, because DD really is mirrored.
― Kaya Ö status changed to solved Sunday, Jan 3, 2010, 11:50:32 AM
corrected, thnx
22  Barksi issue?c=tr/MIKT 10 20763
Wednesday, Dec 30, 2009, 12:39:30 PM solved by KOz (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
i = http://coa.inducks.or...M+58-05-25

Between g & h there are also four YR-strips:

1 = http://coa.inducks.or...R+61-08-15
2 = http://coa.inducks.or...R+60-08-09
3 = ? (Rabbit with eyeglasses talk to another rabbit.)
4 = ?
― Kaya Ö Friday, Jan 1, 2010, 12:05:18 PM
thnx
― Barksi Saturday, Jan 2, 2010, 01:05:39 PM
― Kaya Ö Saturday, Jan 2, 2010, 07:07:22 PM
thnx again; (I've added you as indexer to this issue)
23  Corrado main 20729
Monday, Dec 28, 2009, 10:35:41 PM solved by KOz (full view, add comment) maintained by FAa,DGe,KOz
There is an error concerning Mickey Mouse Weekly. It ran from 1936-1957 (NOT 1959). The last issue is 920 (Dec 1957). Sincerly, Kurt Appel
― Kaya Ö Monday, Jan 4, 2010, 10:03:47 PM
thnx. working on that issue.
24  FAa issue?c=uk/MMW55-0000 20327
Saturday, Dec 12, 2009, 07:25:06 PM solved by KOz (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz


It can't be "Vol.2 No.15". The year 1955 range from "Vol 20 No.764" to "Vol.20 No.816"
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Dec 13, 2009, 10:36:12 AM
the volume and no. info was from ebay seller. I've hidden it if it is questionable.
25  Will Barks main 18981
Friday, Oct 30, 2009, 01:18:56 PM solved by delboj (full view, add comment) maintained by HF,FWi,FBe,SPe
I have a copy of the Serbian Мики Маус, but I cannot find the country catagory "Serbia". How should I inducks this issue?
― spe Friday, Oct 30, 2009, 01:42:50 PM
As far as I know, the country is called "Yugoslavia" in Inducks.
― Kaya Ö Friday, Oct 30, 2009, 10:12:36 PM
It should depend on the date of this publication. If it is after 2006, we should first indeed open a new country code for Serbia so that it can be indexed under that heading. If it is before 2003, you should index it under the existing code for Yugoslavia. (ıf it is from 2003-06, it is a difficult decision).
― Will Barks Saturday, Oct 31, 2009, 02:10:08 PM
It's from 2009, so I think a new country code would be adequate
― spe Saturday, Oct 31, 2009, 08:01:11 PM
Problem 1: 2003-06: The country code is CS, but CS is also the code for Czechoslovakia. There were some issues published in that country, but I think we currently list all of them as being from the Czech Republic. We can't have two countries with the same name.

Problem 2: 2006 and later: The country code is RS. But do we want to list it as another country, or do we wish to keep YU and RS as one country? Basically, there was one country (YU), but then several parts of YU left the country, leaving RS the only remaining part.

Problem 3: ee/PMT is listed as being from Estonia, but Estonia was at that point part of the Soviet Union. Do we want to add a new file su.dbi to Inducks?
― Will Barks Monday, Nov 9, 2009, 02:45:59 PM
So, how do we solve this problem? How shall I inducks my Serbian magazine?
― spe Wednesday, Dec 9, 2009, 07:36:16 PM
Adding some people who might have an opinion on what to do.

That is: Should we split yu.dbi into several files, and if so, into how many?
― Barksi Wednesday, Dec 30, 2009, 02:36:45 PM
I think that Serbia should has been listed because it is independence country nowadays.
― spe Sunday, Jan 3, 2010, 12:01:46 AM
We have Disney comics from the following countries:

YU - Yugoslavia (a.k.a. Soc. Fed. Rep. of Y., Fed. Rep. of Y. etc.) - until 2003-02-03
CS - Serbia and Montenegro - 2003-02-04 until 2006-06-04
RS - Serbia - since 2006-06-05
SI - Slovenia
HR - Croatia

Should we split yu.dbi in three files (yu.dbi, cs.dbi and rs.dbi)? But we also have Disney comics from these countries:

CS - Czechoslovakia
CZ - Czech Rep.
SK - Slovakia

In my opinion, it would look strange to list a country called "Czechoslovakia, Serbia and Montenegro" in Inducks. Any suggestions on how to solve this?

Should some Yugoslavian issues be listed as being from Slovenia or Croatia? If so, which ones and since which dates? They both declared independence on 1991-06-25, but there were some wars involved, and independence wasn't recognised until slightly later.
― Andrejaz Sunday, Jan 3, 2010, 12:12:21 PM
In the serbian national-bibliography http://www.nb.rs/view...le_id=1103 is listed the following entry:

CIP 562
МИКИ Маус / за издавача Ивана Симић. - Год. 1, бр. 1 (јун 2005)- . -
Београд (Кумановска 14-16) : Egmont, 2005- (Чаковец : Zrinski). - 24 cm
Месечно
ISSN 1452-0222 = Мики Маус (Београд)
― spe Sunday, Jan 3, 2010, 12:30:09 PM
From COAzilla #20904:
--- reply by Andrejaz (Sunday, Jan 3, 2010, 01:06:12 PM)
In the serbian national-bibliography
http://www.nb.rs/view...le_id=1103
there ist listed the following entry:

CIP 562
МИКИ Маус / за издавача Ивана Симић. - Год. 1, бр. 1 (јун 2005)- . -
Београд (Кумановска 14-16) : Egmont, 2005- (Чаковец : Zrinski). - 24 cm
Месечно
ISSN 1452-0222 = Мики Маус (Београд)
― spe Sunday, Jan 3, 2010, 12:30:47 PM
--- An answer to a report by [Andrejaz] was changed to:
In the serbian national-bibliography
http://www.nb.rs/view...le_id=1103
there ist listed the following entry:

CIP 562
МИКИ Маус / за издавача Ивана Симић. - Год. 1, бр. 1 (јун 2005)- . -
Београд (Кумановска 14-16) : Egmont, 2005- (Чаковец : Zrinski). - 24 cm
Месечно
ISSN 1452-0222 = Мики Маус (Београд)
--- The original text was:
In the serbian national-bibliography
http://www.nb.rs/view...le_id=1103
there ist listed the following entry:

CIP 562
МИКИ Маус / за издавача Ивана Симић. - Год. 1, бр. 1 (јун 2005)- . -
Београд (Кумановска 14-16) : Egmont, 2005- (Чаковец : Zrinski). - 24 cm
Месечно
ISSN 1452-0222 = Мики Маус (Београд)
― HF Friday, Mar 19, 2010, 01:18:03 PM
I like to propose the following rule:
comics that were published in a country that does not exist anymore are listed at the *current* country in which the *capital city* of the former country is.
This means that Yugoslavian comics should be listed under Serbia (and not vice versa).
― Cacou Friday, Mar 19, 2010, 10:05:51 PM
I would agree with Harry to list everything under Serbia. AFAIK, most of the artists of YU comics were Serbian (or considered themselves so).
― Cacou Saturday, Mar 20, 2010, 11:19:44 AM
To explain my position more precisely: I don't think we should follow official political changes too closely, especially when they're as complicate as in this case. It's easier and simpler to have everything listed as one country, and Serbia is IMO a better choice than Yugoslavia.

In a similar case, Disney comics published in Algeria before 1962 are listed under Algeria. I think listing them under France would seem really strange.
― spe Saturday, Mar 20, 2010, 01:16:35 PM
> In a similar case, Disney comics published in Algeria before 1962 are listed under Algeria. I think listing them under France would seem really strange.

But if we follow Harry's suggestion, they *would* end up under France. They were published in Algeria (a part of France) before 1962. The capital of France at that time was Paris, and Paris is located in the France of today, making those items ending up in the French file.
― Cacou Monday, Mar 29, 2010, 07:36:39 AM
>But if we follow Harry's suggestion, they *would* end up under France.
>They were published in Algeria (a part of France) before 1962. The
>capital of France at that time was Paris, and Paris is located in the
>France of today, making those items ending up in the French file.

But Harry was talking about "countr[ies] that do not exist anymore". In any case, Alger was part of France in 1962, but it's more logical (to me) to list Algerian comics from 1962 under Algeria.

Maybe replacing YU with Serbia is a little too extrem. Maybe we should reserve YU for the pre-war comics (since I assume there were few Disney magazines afterwards), and create a Serbian country for newly published comics.

However, I would definitely use rs only and not cs (hence, removing some items from yu and put them in rs).
― spe Monday, Mar 29, 2010, 01:48:00 PM
> Maybe we should reserve YU for the pre-war comics

Which war are you talking about? There have been several wars in Yugoslavia. If you mean the wars in the 1990s, then it's fine with me. If you mean the wars in the 1940s, then I'm not too happy about the solution: the country was still called Yugoslavia when yu/MZ[CRS] and other publications were published.
― Cacou Sunday, Apr 18, 2010, 10:17:26 AM
It will take too much time to sort out everything here, but at least I think we can create a new country "Serbia", and let Will Barks and others index recent Serbian comics.

I moved the discussion to DDB in order to find a quick agreement on this.
― Will Barks Wednesday, Jun 16, 2010, 02:17:04 PM
Any progress on this problem? My Serbian magazine lies ready to index. ;)
― delboj status changed to solved Saturday, Jul 21, 2012, 02:21:17 PM
However, now we have issues in category Serbia for newer issues (from 2005). Although from 2003-2006 conutry was called Serbia and Montenegro, issues printed in Serbia in 2005 could stay in category Serbia. But for all older issues must stay in category Yugoslavia.
26  spe main 18559
Saturday, Oct 10, 2009, 09:23:00 PM solved by Cacou (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
+DDA 1c U DDA 1B 1 i This Book belongs to [xapp:DD,HDL(1)]

Please use HDL1 instead of HDL(1).
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Oct 11, 2009, 06:55:20 AM
thnx for pointing that out, but when I try to correct it, I cannot because the raw index material doesn't come up when I click on the "cvs edit" at http://coa.inducks.or...k%2FDDA++1, only the header comes up?!!
― Cacou status changed to solved Sunday, Oct 11, 2009, 09:43:32 AM
That was due to a conflict.

I've changed the tool that it now allows editing them:

http://coatest.induck...diff=35027

27  sury story?c=YF 62-01-20 17434
Sunday, Aug 23, 2009, 09:02:58 AM solved by DVr (full view, add comment) maintained by HF,KOz
character: Minnie and Morty and Ferdie(1)
― HF Wednesday, Sep 16, 2009, 12:48:33 PM
This contradicts existing data. What is your source?
― spe Sunday, Nov 8, 2009, 02:44:08 PM
Is it MM or MF1 on the Turkish scan?
― sury Sunday, Nov 8, 2009, 02:48:37 PM
Well, MF1, no?
― Kaya Ö Tuesday, Mar 2, 2010, 04:20:53 PM
yep, MF1
28  Kaya Ö story?c=YM 62-01-16 16546
Saturday, Jul 11, 2009, 09:56:13 PM solved by FWi (full view, add comment) maintained by HF,FWi,DGe
note that the new scan (with a clearly visible 1962 copyright and 1-16 date on the panels) I've uploaded is different from the prev. scan and the xapp are different.
― spe Sunday, Jul 12, 2009, 07:02:28 AM
[art:JSv] for the Turkish one? If so, it's YF (and not YM).
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Jul 12, 2009, 06:41:39 PM
thnx for the tip, you must be right, I will be changing the Turkish indexes accordingly
― Kaya Ö Monday, Jul 13, 2009, 06:39:52 AM
ok
29  Cacou issue?c=us/MMM  19 12344
Thursday, Dec 11, 2008, 02:48:29 PM solved by Cacou (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz,HF
If 3 panels were added in item #18, I think we could give them their own code. What do you think?
― Kaya Ö Thursday, Dec 11, 2008, 03:09:51 PM
If that's more in tune with established inducks conventions, why not, sure. In that case, I guess we shall link this new coded item with the original ZM item as remake:ZM**(DD redrawn with shorter beak, 3 panels added) , right?
― Cacou Thursday, Dec 11, 2008, 04:05:27 PM
I was thinking of giving the 3 panels a new code but list the rest as a normal reprint of ZM 35-04-28.
For instance, that's what we do for the added Italian panels in YM 001
http://coa.inducks.or...+TGS+++9-A
I updated the index so you can more easily see what I mean:
http://coa.inducks.or...diff=11337
I'm not sure if the "short beak" is part of the new panels or not but let me know if you think it's OK, or otherwise change/edit the index.
― Kaya Ö Thursday, Dec 11, 2008, 05:03:24 PM
ok the edit you made looks fine to me, I've just changed brokpg:3/8 to q since it is three panels out of total 12 in the page
30  iwerksfan issue?c=uk/MMW  184 12311
Tuesday, Dec 9, 2008, 04:18:34 PM solved by Kaya Ö (full view, add comment) maintained by KOz
The cover is indicated as UC MMW 18 when it should clearly be UC MMW 184.
Also, I don't have this issue handy but I have others from the period; are we certain "Baby and Chip" shouldn't be "Bobby and Chip" (a regular non-Disney comic feature in MMW)?
― HF Wednesday, Dec 10, 2008, 06:42:06 PM
The index seems to have disappeared completely.
At least UC MMW 18 is used nowhere anymore.
― Cacou Thursday, Dec 11, 2008, 07:39:06 PM
The issue was mixed up with MMW 18.
http://coa.inducks.or...uk/MMW++18

Changing maintainer for KOz, the indexer, who may be able to answer David's question.
― Kaya Ö Thursday, Dec 11, 2008, 08:25:25 PM
yes, it should have been Bobby and Chip, correcting now and should appear as such tmw; thnx ok
31  Kaya Ö country?c=us 12055
Thursday, Nov 27, 2008, 03:19:24 PM solved by Cacou (full view, add comment) maintained by FWi,SPe
Can I get an entry/code for Mickey Mouse Series, published by David McKay Company, so that I can index them?
ps: Also, my request from last week for an entry for Mickey Mouse Book, published by Bibo and Lang, so that I can index it has not been met yet...
― HF Thursday, Nov 27, 2008, 03:27:16 PM
Adding other people who might be able to do things faster than me.
― spe Thursday, Nov 27, 2008, 10:47:00 PM
Is one of them the book I see at http://kayaozkaracala...gspot.com/ ? I wouldn't call that comics...
― Kaya Ö Friday, Nov 28, 2008, 12:02:00 AM
Yes, that's one of them. As ı wrote in the last paragraph of that blog post, second and subsequent editions of that book include reprints of some YM strips; hence, it's the first publication ever to reprint YM strips outside of newspapers.
but what if it didn't? inducks include countless publications which are not comics per se.. such as
http://coa.inducks.or...%2fLGBD+84
http://coa.inducks.or...%2fWHI+845
not to mention
http://coa.inducks.or...hp?c=us/GH
while some of the later issues of GH appear to be in comics format with rows, but most of the earlier ones include merely "illustrations" or "texts".
and same with quite a few of the french publications included in inducks, and perhaps some of the italians as well.

― Kaya Ö Friday, Nov 28, 2008, 12:09:36 AM
and I forgot about pointing out to:
http://coa.inducks.or...?c=us/MMMD
http://coa.inducks.or...?c=us/MMMG
most of which are in identical format to the Bibo Lang format
― Cacou Friday, Nov 28, 2008, 08:46:28 AM
Added as:

W MMSDM h1 Mickey Mouse Series [publ:David McKay Company]

W MMSDM 1 h3 [issdate:?] [inx:-]

Other one is:

W MMBBL h1 Mickey Mouse Book [publ:Bibo & Lang]

W MMBBL 1 h3 [issdate:?] [inx:-]

― spe Friday, Nov 28, 2008, 09:17:40 AM
This doesn't seem to be the kind of thing we list in Inducks. Should it be removed again?
― Cacou Friday, Nov 28, 2008, 10:17:05 AM
There are some exceptions. If the second and third volume of a series contain YM strips, I think the first volume could be indexed, as long as someone proposes to do so. It requires a minimum effort from us.
The other is an important book historically.
But that's only my opinion. We could have a discussion about this on DDB I think.
― Cacou Sunday, Nov 30, 2008, 12:38:57 PM
Discussion moved to DDB.
32  HP story?c=IC AR  334 11418
Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008, 11:00:55 AM solved by spe (full view, add comment) maintained by HF,FWi,SPe
This report has been flagged as important
Appearences + Hero(es): Goofy, Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse
YOU HAVE MICKEY'S NAME TWICE
― spe Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008, 11:07:13 AM
DBI has [hero:M+G] [xapp:MM,GO]. Is there a bug in DIZNI?
― figolfin Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008, 01:07:10 PM
I've also seen this in my indices and in other stories. The hero's name appears twice
― figolfin Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008, 08:49:53 PM
I have also problems with the advanced search function. I get "no results" where there should have been a lot (for example, i only put Kind:story, Characters:DD,HDL, Date:before 1996 and i get no result)
― HF Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 10:35:10 AM
There are extra (unofficial) characters with codes "MM ", "GO " (including the space). This confuses the software.
― Cacou Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 10:58:56 AM
I guess this is in gr.dbi's Fraply's indexes? apparently, these have been corrected already.
― Kaya Ö Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 11:32:55 AM
it's not only in fraply's indexes. as I had tried to explain in my own error message (which had been subsequently labeled as "dublicate"), MM and DD appears in doubles almost everywhere. just do a search for all YD and YM items (where there are, I presume no extra spaces) and you'll see what we mean.
― Cacou Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 12:08:20 PM
But, Kaya, the problems in gr.dbi have spreaded everywhere because those characters have been automatically added in the legend file. Let's see tomorrow if this is solved.
― HF Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 12:15:28 PM
The space should not have been a problem, btw. Dizni removes spaces. But maybe there was a non-printable character? That still doesn't explain why Dizni/COA think that is the same as MM on place 1, while they think it's different on place 2.

Kaya: yes, we know. MM, GO, and DD appear double everywhere. That is why *this* error report is flagged as "important".

I tried to remove some records manually, but the SQL php script is not ready anymore for non-SELECT statements.
― Kaya Ö Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 01:19:22 PM
the problem of double MM's and double DD's seems to have been solved as of now, at least in YD and YM items; cheers
― spe Wednesday, Oct 29, 2008, 11:09:13 PM
I found some bugs in gr.dbi: some lines used wrong numbers of spaces, so when DIZNI read these lines, some ISV fields ended up wrong, often as invalid UTF-8. Maybe COA ignored the problematic bytes, resulting in "DD + invalid byte combination" being treated as identical to the normal "DD".

I corrected lots of errors in gr.dbi, including several problems related to wrong number of spaces around the hero field. Let's see what happens tomorrow.
― spe Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 09:03:02 AM
I see that my changes to gr.dbi didn't solve this -- MM and DD (and possibly also other characters) are currently listed twice everywhere on COA. Maybe I didn't find all errors in gr.dbi, or maybe the reason to this was something else.
― HF Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 09:48:36 AM
So my temporary deletion of the records in the database worked, even though it gave me an error message. And of course, this morning the wrong records came back.
― Cacou Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 10:31:46 AM
It seems that GO is not mentioned twice anymore, but MM and DD still do.

However, I found lots of " MM" and " DD" in es.dbi, which didn't cause any problem. Maybe " DD" is OK and "DD " is not?

For info, here is the complete diff for gr.dbi edits on Oct 27:

http://inducks.org/cg...&r2=1.1159

― Cacou Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 10:48:40 AM
While performing:

SELECT c.charactercode,RIGHT(c.charactercode,1),ASCII(RIGHT(c.charactercode,1))

FROM inducks_appearance a, inducks_character c

WHERE a.storyversioncode='IC AR 334'
AND c.charactercode=a.charactercode


The results comes as:

charactercode^RIGHT(c.charactercode,1)^ASCII(RIGHT(c.charactercode,1))^
GO^O^79^
MM^M^77^
MM ^ ^32^


So there is a second "MM " charactercode with a space at the end. Apparently, something in a DBI file makes Dizni produce it. The change occured on Oct 27.

― HF Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 11:19:37 AM
Is there a way to see if that is really a space, or something else?
(Dizni should always remove trailing spaces.)
― spe Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
> So there is a second "MM " charactercode with a space at the end. Apparently, something in a DBI file makes Dizni produce it. The change occured on Oct 27.

That's what you see on COA. But if you look at the data in the file inducks_character.isv, you see "MM<space><one extra byte>". This is an illegal UTF-8 byte sequence, so maybe COA (MySQL) ignores the last byte, making it a valid byte sequence.

Each UTF-8 character is 1, 2, 3 or 4 bytes. Specifically, a Greek letter is two bytes. Yesterday when I checked gr.dbi, I saw that some lines had a wrong number of spaces. This had a problematic result in the ISV files.

The title starts with a Greek letter (i.e. 2 bytes), but there's one space too little before the title. As a result, the first byte of the Greek letter ends up at the fourth position of the hero, while the second byte of the same Greek letter ends up as the first byte of the title.

I tried to fix these space problems yesterday, hoping that they would be the only cause to the problem. However, although GO is no longer duplicated, MM and DD still are. Maybe I missed some errors, or maybe someone added new errors after my fix.

Revision 1.1247 specifically deals with this space issue.
Revision 1.1245 indirectly deals with the space issue, since I removed two issues with wrong issuecodes (with space errors). These issues were already listed (without errors) under the correct issuecodes.
― HF Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 12:01:08 PM
gr.log2 says:

gr/KL 50b @I TL 711-AP #295 hero <MM �> is not in the legend file
gr/KL 50c @I TL 637-A #295 hero <US �> is not in the legend file
gr/KL 50d @I TL 736-A #295 hero <MM �> is not in the legend file
gr/KL 50e @I TL 259-B #295 hero <DD �> is not in the legend file

So the KL 50 index needs to be corrected.
― spe Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 01:05:42 PM
Seems that FWi changed the KL 50 index. Let's see what's happening tomorrow.
― Cacou Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 02:09:05 PM
Yep, I've also changed COA so that it will refuse to commit any user input text that is not UTF-8.
― HF Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 03:05:03 PM
That UTF-8 test wouldn't have helped, since the input *is* valid UTF-8. It's just that DIZNI reads a UTF-8 character byte by byte and regards a first byte part of a different field from the 2nd byte.

That wouldn't have caused a global problem though, if PHP/MySQL wouldn't have been so "nice" to ignore trailing spaces and weird characters in their SQL queries! (%^&)
― spe Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 03:10:12 PM
Maybe it would be a good idea to make a DIZNI fix here? As far as I know, DIZNI checks that each line is valid UTF-8 in UTF-8 files, and *after* that splits up the line in several fields. Maybe it would be better to first split up the line in several fields, and after that check each field instead? And if a field is invalid UTF-8, clear the data of that field and complain to log1. And only check for other errors (heroes not in heroes.dbl etc.) after the charset check.
― Cacou Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 03:47:44 PM
Well, I suppose I can set an option on MySQL so that it will only import lines without errors, and produce warnings when it finds errors.
However, I'd say it's a Dizni bug. Dizni should read the entire files in a given format, and split texts according to that format.

SPe:
>Maybe it would be better to first split up the line in several fields, and
>after that check each field instead? And if a field is invalid UTF-8, clear
>the data of that field and complain to log1

Actually, with this method, wouldn't it be possible that a field content is valid UTF-8 by coincidence? I think it's better that Dizni splits according to the encoding.

― HF Thursday, Oct 30, 2008, 04:03:23 PM
This is getting to look too much like a discussion (probably not of interest to the original poster)...

It is not a DIZNI but. DIZNI should forward all wrong character names to the ISV files (to avoid broken links on COA), and write log messages about them. And that is exactly what it does.
It is a PHP bug to regard 2 clearly different contents of a string as being the same.
― Cacou Friday, Oct 31, 2008, 08:41:03 AM
The discussion was moved to our internal mailing list. Still, the bug should be solved (now or tomorrow).
― HF Friday, Oct 31, 2008, 09:35:59 AM
"the bug should be solved" meaning "the bug should not be there anymore" (and not "we should still solve the bug").

I also see that I wrote "It is not a DIZNI but". I am right, of course. It is not a DIZNI but. Whatever that means. 8-)
― ODa Tuesday, Oct 28, 2008, 04:32:49 PM
Lots (but not all) hero names appear twice on the website. Coa or Dizni problem? Adding FWi as maintainer.
33  Kaya Ö publication?c=tr/DA 10255
Saturday, Sep 20, 2008, 12:53:36 PM solved by Cacou (full view, add comment) maintained by SPe,KOz
publisher: Doğan Egmont Yayıncılık
― Cacou Sunday, Sep 21, 2008, 11:16:37 AM
ok done.

By the way, if you'd like to add many new publications or publisher info to the Turkish index, I could send you the Turkish file, let you edit the file, and send it back to me?
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Sep 21, 2008, 02:08:35 PM
well, in principle, I can add, to the Turkish index, titles and publ info for virtually all (or almost all) other Turkish Disney publications that ever came in print. Let me think quickly: there are 2 more pre-war publications, about half a dozen more from 1950s and about half a dozen more from post-1960 to current era.
However, plz note that I do not intend to really index post-1960 stuff anytime in the foreseeable future as my priority is more in earlier decades. After I finish off 1950s, I was intending to go back to completing unindexed issues of pre-war Turk stuff (cf Afacan)as well as U MMW. So, if we enter any post-1960 series, they will stay for an indefinite time with at most their first and last issues indexed only.
― Cacou Sunday, Sep 21, 2008, 04:07:13 PM
You could simply add "h1" lines with just the titles of all Turkish series and publisher. That's what I did for the French publications, just to get an overview of the titles.
― spe Sunday, Sep 21, 2008, 08:46:45 PM
In se.dbi and jp.dbi I've tried to at least add h1 lines (meaning that the publication is mentioned in Inducks and that it has an abbreviation, but not necessarily any issues) so that I won't risk to forget to index something whenever I get the time to do so.
― Kaya Ö Sunday, Sep 28, 2008, 07:43:07 PM
OK, I am now ready to get the Turkish file to edit it to add new publications and publisher infos to the Turkish index.
34  Kaya Ö issue?c=tr/CSMFA 5 9208
Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008, 06:46:43 PM solved by Cacou (full view, add comment) maintained by FWi
the scan of the turkish edition of YM 020 doesn't appear when YM 020 is clicked
― spe Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008, 06:56:27 PM
Strange: *I* see the scan at http://coa.inducks.or...p?c=YM+020
― Kaya Ö Wednesday, Aug 13, 2008, 07:11:37 PM
yes, now I also see this one; sorry.


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